By: anigbrowl
[re. treating immigrants differently from citizens] Right, because of racism. It may have been a felony, but there is no rational reason to kick him out of the country over it, when another person...
View ArticleBy: spicynuts
Two things: One: He's free Two: Right, because of racism. It may have been a felony, but there is no rational reason to kick him out of the country over it, when another person wouldn't be. In my...
View ArticleBy: delmoi
Yeah it's called the difference between being a citizen and not. We treat those two conditions differently all the time. Right, because of racism. It may have been a felony, but there is no rational...
View ArticleBy: Mitrovarr
callmejay:You know what, assholes? Being born on one side of an imaginary line doesn't make you special. People who live here should be citizens. That is what the word citizen should mean. Move here at...
View ArticleBy: bardic
"pled guilty to a felony in order to avoid jail time" I'm obviously NAL, but WTF? Don't you cop a plea to a misdemeanor in order to avoid a felony charge? How could a pleading guilty to a felony make...
View ArticleBy: anigbrowl
[quoting] Yep, this is actually the end of his immigration woes! Of course that's a casual characterization on a blog, but as a general matter I hope Airaldi will work with his immigration lawyer to...
View ArticleBy: fixedgear
First Ted Williams and now Pablo Airaldi? I think my heart just grew three sizes.
View ArticleBy: Panjandrum
He has no right to be here. Being a cool brovalued member of his community doesn't change that.He may be bro to millions out there in Cycle Cityvalued member of his community, but that changes...
View ArticleBy: Postroad
One comment noted that he did not steal but rather dealt with stolen parts. The conviction made him a felon, and because of that he became subject to deportation. As to what ought or ought not be done,...
View ArticleBy: stachemaster
BREAKING GREAT NEWS: Pablo's release papers have been signed, and he will be picked up by his friends this evening. From my friend Victoria, who was quoted in the Voice article: For those that are...
View ArticleBy: entropone
The case being made by some on here is that we can't simply go around petitioning laws to be re-written and policy overthrown because the felony was a long time ago, because someone is a "good dude,"...
View ArticleBy: tiger yang
If immigrants are not a net drag on the economy, then isn't it obvious how the economy of a country would be affected by more immigration? It would, because immigrants are not a net drag, either stay...
View ArticleBy: Panjandrum
Yeah, jng, I may have been a bit hyperbolic there. I was reacting more the "hurf durf cool kids" tribalism than anyone's specific views on immigration policy and enforcement.
View ArticleBy: wenat
He has forgotten the language he spoke until he was nine? Doubtful. It's quite likely, actually. I was fluent in (British) English and Hokkien and knew Malaysian and Cantonese when I moved to Canada at...
View ArticleBy: jng
(but otherwise Panjandrum agree with you completely that the situation here is messed up and wish we had a better system so that with cases like these, folks could find an avenue to stay here openly)
View ArticleBy: jng
This has got to be the one of the ugliest Metafilter threads I've ever walked in on. Not sure if I'd go that far. Yes ICE can be extremely heavy-handed and the way the U.S. treats undocumented...
View ArticleBy: Hairy Lobster
Pruitt-Igoe: Metafilter is Freerepublic now because some people disagree with you? Take a deep breath. Yeah, well, sorry for the unchecked emotional response. The thread got me quite upset. I'm an...
View ArticleBy: callmejay
tiger yang: If immigrants are not a net drag on the economy, then isn't it obvious how the economy of a country would be affected by more immigration? It would, because immigrants are not a net drag,...
View ArticleBy: madajb
Does this second look allow for the answer "YES"? Because that's what the article is about - the dude's a good guy, a hardworking and valued member of his community. Of course. It shouldn't take 2 and...
View ArticleBy: tiger yang
You seem to be assuming that immigrants are a net drag on the economy ... Focusing on immigrant free-riders as an argument against open immigration is about as fair as focusing on "welfare queens" as...
View ArticleBy: entropone
I do think being convicted of a felony should be cause to take a second look as to whether you are a welcome and wanted addition to the country. Does this second look allow for the answer "YES"?...
View ArticleBy: anigbrowl
Getting a visa to permanently live (and especially, permanently work) in many other countries is infinitely harder than it is in the U.S. (in South America, for example –I know because I once tried)....
View ArticleBy: entropone
However - and as much as our warmed hearts don't like the facts - he pleaded to a felony before he applied for U.S. citizenship. As an eighteen-year-old kid. Based on the advice of a public defender -...
View ArticleBy: madajb
You think a crime that didn't even merit jail time is a "good reason" to be deported? Not necessarily, no. That is why I did not say "This guy should be on the next plane". However, I do think being...
View ArticleBy: callmejay
Just curious: if a no-questioned-asked open-border policy were enacted in the U.S.: how would we account for the tax burden? The overload of the school systems? Hospitals? Even the basics (Agriculture?...
View ArticleBy: Panjandrum
This has got to be the one of the ugliest Metafilter threads I've ever walked in on. Yes, he committed a crime, or more properly, was an accessory to a crime. But some of you think the proper response...
View ArticleBy: Pruitt-Igoe
Metafilter is Freerepublic now because some people disagree with you? Take a deep breath.
View ArticleBy: anigbrowl
In general, there is no statute of limitations on removability. ICE are probably uninterested in him personally, but are under considerable political pressure to keep the numbers up and his case is an...
View ArticleBy: tiger yang
Move here at any age and indicate that you want to stay? Boom, you're a citizen. That's how the law would work if we were a decent people. I don't know why more people don't see it like that. Because...
View ArticleBy: callmejay
I'd say being known to commit crimes is a pretty good reason to be not welcome in a country. You think a crime that didn't even merit jail time is a "good reason" to be deported? (Note how you change...
View ArticleBy: Hairy Lobster
Is this the MeFi Free Republic Readers Anonymous Board? I feel like I've fallen of the edge of the blue and landed in some alternate reality... Or maybe I just missed the sign at the door that says...
View ArticleBy: madajb
This is the banality of evil, folks. Setting aside all the laws and abstract concepts, we're talking about kicking a person out of the country he's lived in since age 9 for no good reason. I'd say...
View ArticleBy: OneMonkeysUncle
I hate shit like this. Twelve pages of "completely irrelevant" and one paragraph to describe that, in fact, he did in fact do what he was accused of doing, he plea-bargained out with a felony on his...
View ArticleBy: callmejay
This is the banality of evil, folks. Setting aside all the laws and abstract concepts, we're talking about kicking a person out of the country he's lived in since age 9 for no good reason. That's it,...
View ArticleBy: hippybear
your statement about 'circumstances of birth' doesn't stand. That's what citizenship is. Not if the new majority in the House has its way!
View ArticleBy: spicynuts
The argument being made is that he should be treated vastly differently then someone else, simply because of the circumstances of his birth Yeah it's called the difference between being a citizen and...
View ArticleBy: spicynuts
What I have a hard time wrapping my mind around is the timing. If this wasn't a deportable offense when it happened, then why, more than a decade later, is it a problem now? 9/11 NEVER FORGET.
View ArticleBy: anigbrowl
There is nothing especially American about that outcome. Anyway, a retroactivePadilla challenge to that plea deal may receive a favorable hearing in the 7th circuit. IANAL, IANYL, TINLA.
View ArticleBy: delmoi
Yeah, I don't really get the "He shouldn't be here!" stuff. Had he been a citizen, he wouldn't have spent a day in jail -- and indeed he didn't spend any time in jail at the time. The argument being...
View ArticleBy: Karmakaze
What I have a hard time wrapping my mind around is the timing. If this wasn't a deportable offense when it happened, then why, more than a decade later, is it a problem now?
View ArticleBy: rtha
This could also have been avoided by not participating in stealing someone's property. Oh, of course. But it's also true that moneyed criminals have more options and fewer risks (assuming the crime was...
View ArticleBy: tiger yang
If his family had had the money for decent legal representation, he might not have ended up with a record that makes him deportable. Ah, the American way! This could also have been avoided by not...
View ArticleBy: rtha
Born in Uruguay and brought to America by his mother as a child, he was a legal permanent resident, but he got caught transporting stolen car parts as a teenager, and at the behest of a harried public...
View ArticleBy: TheophileEscargot
He's not a citizen but is a felon. He victimized people by stealing their stuff. That really, really sucks. He has no right to be here. Did he steal? Article says he was "caught transporting stolen car...
View ArticleBy: saulgoodman
My first language was German, which I spoke exclusively until I was five, but I quickly forgot it entirely (though I later recovered some fluency after spending months at a time immersed in the...
View ArticleBy: fantodstic
I know plenty of adults** who do not speak Spanish or Portuguese Oops. Adults, of course. Haha
View ArticleBy: fantodstic
He's not a citizen but is a felon. He victimized people by stealing their stuff. That really, really sucks. He has no right to be here. Being a cool bro doesn't change that. I think the article says he...
View ArticleBy: xetere
Am conflicted, since he lived in the US as a child, he is essentially an American, but the US - *any country* does have the right to decide who to let stay in the country. I do think though one stupid...
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